Thirteen Holocaust survivors compare Zionist policies to those of the Nazis

Stephen Kapos. Image: DoubleDown News

Thirteen Holocaust survivors compare Zionist policies to those of the Nazis

One of the most worrying aspects of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism is its suggestion that “drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis” is necessarily anti-Semitic. Although it’s true that sometimes such comparisons can be crude and ahistorical, in most cases they are not at all antisemitic.

Below are some quotes from Jewish Holocaust survivors who oppose historical and recent Zionist policies, many connecting them with those of the Nazis.

All these survivors could be accused of anti-Semitism under the IHRA definition. Indeed one survivor – Marika Sherwood – had a university lecture censored on this basis, while another – Marione Ingram – had her lectures cancelled in Germany for similarly spurious reasons.

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PS: First published, in a earlier version, on Labour Briefing but no longer available there.


 1

“As a Jewish youngster growing up in Budapest, an infant survivor of the Nazi genocide, I was for years haunted by a question resounding in my brain with such force that sometimes my head would spin: ‘How was it possible? How could the world have let such horrors happen?’

It was a naïve question, that of a child. I know better now: such is reality. Whether in Vietnam or Rwanda or Syria, humanity stands by either complicitly or unconsciously or helplessly, as it always does. In Gaza today we find ways of justifying the bombing of hospitals, the annihilation of families at dinner, the killing of pre-adolescents playing soccer on a beach. …

There is no understanding Gaza out of context – Hamas rockets or unjustifiable terrorist attacks on civilians – and that context is the longest ongoing ethnic cleansing operation in the recent and present centuries, the ongoing attempt to destroy Palestinian nationhood.

The Palestinians use tunnels? So did my heroes, the poorly armed fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto. Unlike Israel, Palestinians lack Apache helicopters, guided drones, jet fighters with bombs, laser-guided artillery. Out of impotent defiance, they fire inept rockets, causing terror for innocent Israelis but rarely physical harm. With such a gross imbalance of power, there is no equivalence of culpability. …

And what shall we do, we ordinary people? I pray we can listen to our hearts. My heart tells me that ‘never again’ is not a tribal slogan, that the murder of my grandparents in Auschwitz does not justify the ongoing dispossession of Palestinians, that justice, truth, peace are not tribal prerogatives. That Israel’s ‘right to defend itself,’ unarguable in principle, does not validate mass killing.

Dr. Gabor Maté, ‘Beautiful dream of Israel has become a nightmare’,
Toronto Star, 22/7/14.
Gabor Maté is a survivor of the Budapest ghetto.

2

“The way that the Israeli government is using the memory of the Holocaust in order to justify what they’re doing to the Gazans is a complete insult to the memory of the Holocaust. It is an outrage. …

What distinguishes the Jewish Holocaust is its industrial scale and industrial methods being applied. And what has been happening to Gaza is similar in that the scale of the bombing and the indiscriminate nature of the bombing, the complete lack of care about children and women being the majority of the victims, amounts to an industrial scale of genocide. The painting of the Palestinian people as worthless, almost animal like, by the description of some of the leaders, that dehumanization, enables the population of Israel to tolerate what’s going on. The way that Palestinian people who were arrested were treated having to take their clothes off and parading them, it’s part of the humiliation.

In the West Bank, the way the checkpoints are organized, the way you are forced to wait for hours for no reason in order to go to school or go to work etc.. All this amounted to humiliation similar to to what we experienced. The sort of determination and consistency with which they are setting about to destroy the whole of Gaza is very similar to the kind of cruelty and determination of the fascist regimes. Some of the actions of the Nazi state in dehumanizing and completely cruel large-scale killings etc., if it is repeated, I don’t see why you couldn’t make the parallel. It can only be helpful in understanding what’s going on to make the parallel. I don’t think there should be any taboo against that.”

Stephen Kapos, ‘The one video Israel doesn’t want you to see’,
Double Down News,
7/5/24.
Stephen Kapos is a survivor of the Budapest ghetto.

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“I think Israel is a fascist state today. What else would you call it? Can you imagine dying in a way where the building falls on you? That’s the way the death occurs in those places, day after day. It is almost like torture. … So, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising seemed to me like a parallel to what Hamas was doing. And they were very conscious, they were going to die in the Warsaw Ghetto and they were going to take some with them. The Warsaw Ghetto fighters were these young people, they were idealistic, they were all socialists, they were all on the left. The Jewish world has forgotten that. [The Hamas fighters,] their grandparents originally came from the Nakba of 1948. And they have been in this open-air concentration camp with guards all around them, their whole lives! That is why I think there is a parallel.”

Rene Lichtman , ‘Holocaust survivor Rene Lichtman “Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza. We’ve got to fight back.”’ 24/1/24.
Rene Lichtman is a survivor of Nazi-occupied France

4

“I feel the suffering of the Palestinian people with a distinct sharpness because in certain respects it calls to mind what I, my family, and my community endured at the hands of Hitlerism. Hitler’s Holocaust is unique in history. Nothing is ‘similar’ to it. Still, many Israeli techniques – the expulsions, the ghetto isolation, the pervasive checkpoints – have a disquieting resemblance to Nazi methods.”

Suzanne Berliner Weiss, Holocaust to resistance, my journey, 2019.
Suzanne Weiss is a survivor of Nazi-occupied France

 

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“The Israeli government and its army aren’t Nazis, but they are behaving like all oppressors and people who make wars. So I don’t think they should be too offended if their actions are likened to those of the Nazis. … I’ve experienced exclusion, bombs, the loss of family, hunger, starvation. To me it is the most horrific negation of ‘Never again’, what Israel is doing in Gaza today as we speak. Netanyahu and his ilk say that October 7 was like the Holocaust. What does he call 31,000 dead people? What is that, if 1,200 people was a Holocaust?”

Marione Ingram, ‘I am the saddest, angriest, most disappointed Jew in the world’,
Vashti, 7/5/24.
Marione Ingram is a survivor of the Budapest ghetto.

6

“Sometime after [1956] I heard a news item about Israelis herding Palestinians into settlement camps. I just could not believe this. Weren’t the Israelis also Jews? Hadn’t we – they – just survived the greatest pogrom of our history? Weren’t [concentration] camps – often euphemistically called ‘settlement camps’ by the Nazis – the main feature of this pogrom? How could Jews in any measure do unto others what had been done to them? How could these Israeli Jews oppress and imprison other people? In my romantic imagination, the Jews in Israel were socialists and people who knew right from wrong. This was clearly incorrect. I felt let down, as if I was being robbed of a part of what I had thought was my heritage. …

I have to say to the Israeli government, which claims to speak in the name of all Jews, that it is not speaking in my name. I will not remain silent in the face of the attempted annihilation of the Palestinians; the sale of arms to repressive regimes around the world; the attempt to stifle criticism of Israel in the media worldwide; or the twisting of the knife labelled ‘guilt’ in order to gain economic concessions from Western countries. Of course, Israel’s geo-political position has a greater bearing on this, at the moment. I will not allow the confounding of the terms ‘anti-Semitic’ and ‘anti-Zionist’ to go unchallenged.”

Dr. Marika Sherwood, ‘How I became an anti-Israel Jew’,
Middle East Monitor, 7/3/18.
Marika Sherwood is a survivor of the Budapest ghetto.

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“Israel, in order to survive, has to renounce the wish for domination and then it will be a much better place for Jews also. The immediate analogy which a lot of people are making in Israel is Germany. Not only the Germany of Hitler and the Nazis but even the former German Empire wanted to dominate Europe. What happened in Japan after the attack on China is that they wanted to dominate a huge area of Asia. When Germany and Japan renounced the wish for domination, they became much nicer societies for the Japanese and Germans themselves. In addition to all the Arab considerations, I would like to see Israel, by renouncing the desire for domination, including domination of the Palestinians, become a much nicer place for Israelis to live.”

Dr. Israel Shahak, American Arab Affairs, 1989.
Israel Shahak was a survivor of the Warsaw ghetto and Bergen-Belsen concentration camp.

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“I am pained by the parallels I observe between my experiences in Germany prior to 1939 and those suffered by Palestinians today. I cannot help but hear echoes of the Nazi mythos of ‘blood and soil’ in the rhetoric of settler fundamentalism which claims a sacred right to all the lands of biblical Judea and Samaria. The various forms of collective punishment visited upon the Palestinian people – coerced ghettoization behind a ‘security wall’; the bulldozing of homes and destruction of fields; the bombing of schools, mosques, and government buildings; an economic blockade that deprives people of the water, food, medicine, education and the basic necessities for dignified survival – force me to recall the deprivations and humiliations that I experienced in my youth. This century-long process of oppression means unimaginable suffering for Palestinians.”

Dr. Hajo Meyer, ‘An Ethical Tradition Betrayed’,
Huffington Post, 27/1/10.
Meyer was a survivor of Auschwitz.

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“I as a Holocaust survivor cannot live with the fact that the State of Israel is imprisoning an entire people behind fences. …  It’s just immoral.

What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night and I hope we don’t do the same thing to our neighbours. … [I compare] what I went through during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through.”

Reuben Moscovitz, ‘Jewish Gaza-bound Activists: IDF Used Excessive Force in Naval Raid’,
Haaretz, 28/9/10.
Reuben Moscovitz was survivor of the Holocaust in Romania

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“The left is no longer capable of overcoming the toxic ultra-nationalism that has evolved here [in Israel], the kind whose European strain almost wiped out a majority of the Jewish people. The interviews Haaretz’s Ravit Hecht held with [the right-wing Israeli politicians] Smotrich and Zohar (December 3, 2016 and October 28, 2017 ) should be widely disseminated on all media outlets in Israel and throughout the Jewish world. In both of them we see not just a growing Israeli fascism but racism akin to Nazism in its early stages.

Like every ideology, the Nazi race theory developed over the years. At first it only deprived Jews of their civil and human rights. It’s possible that without World War II the ‘Jewish problem’ would have ended only with the ‘voluntary’ expulsion of Jews from Reich lands. After all, most of Austria and Germany’s Jews made it out in time. It’s possible that this is the future facing Palestinians.”

Prof. Zeev Sternhell, ‘Opinion in Israel, Growing Fascism and a Racism Akin to Early Nazism’,
Haaretz, 19/1/18.
Zeev Sternhell is a survivor of the Przemysl ghetto in Poland.

 

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“[During the war] it never even entered any of our minds that the Zionists were deliberately remaining passive in regard to the physical destruction of the Jews in order to additionally justify the founding of the State of Israel… But today, even acknowledged historians speak out loud about the way that some of the Zionists living in Palestine exploited the Holocaust politically! … [The first Israeli Prime Minister] Ben Gurion believed that the worse it is for the Jews in Europe, the better for Israel. He put that into practice… Ben Gurion washed his hands of the Diaspora… As early as a Mapai party conference in December 1942, he said that the tragedy of the European Jews did not ‘directly concern’ them. Those were the words of a leader who was willing to sacrifice the lives of millions of Jews to the idea of a Jewish state. I’m not saying he could have saved thousands of people, but he could have fought for those thousands of people. He did not do so. I don’t know whether this was deliberate.”

Dr Marek Edelman, 2016. Being on the right side:
Everyone in the ghetto was a hero
, pp. 223, 448.
Marek Edelman was a survivor of the Warsaw Ghetto and
a commander of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

 

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“[As for Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin] ‘Fascist’ is a definition I can accept. I think even Begin would not deny it. He was a student of Jabotinsky, who represented the right wing of Zionism, who called himself a Fascist and was one of Mussolini’s interlocutors. Yes, Begin was his pupil. That is Begin’s history…. [The Holocaust] is Begin’s favourite defence. And I deny any validity to that defence.”

Primo Levi, The Voice of Memory: Primo Levi Interviews, 1961-1987, pp. 285-286.
The quote is from 1982.
Primo Levi was an Auschwitz survivor.

13a

“The Zionist movement of Europe played a very important role in the mass extermination of Jews. Indeed, I believe that without the cooperation of Zionists it would have been a much more difficult task….

[The Zionists] said that we are not Czechoslovaks or we are not Germans, we are not French, we are Jews and we must, as Jews, go back to our country, to Israel or to Palestine and found our state …

Then came the Nuremberg Law, which was a law, issued by a nominally civilized state [Nazi Germany], which said that Jews do not belong to Europe, but to Palestine. …

So, on one platform, Nazism and Zionism had something in common: they both preached that Jews don’t belong to Europe but to Palestine. …

And naturally, the Germans said: ‘You see the Jews may not trust us but they will trust you’, to the Zionists, ‘because they have seen that they have always told them actually the truth: that you belong to Palestine, that you are a foreign element here.’ …

And so the Jewish councils were preferably selected from well-known Zionists. And, because the well-known Zionists became respectable, many Jews who were respectable anyway became Zionists. So they formed Jewish councils from a Zionist core, fortified by respectable members of society: top lawyers, top business people, top economists and that was the Jewish councils. …

They were promised by the Germans or by the local fascist government to be protected from any discrimination because they are needed for administering of the Jewish affairs. …

So you had here already a Zionist clique enforced by money of big Jewish businessmen who would be prepared to go along with the discrimination against the masses of the Jewish population which were neither rich nor Zionist, and in other words did not belong to the clique. …

So I didn’t trust them in spite of the fact that the Nazis gave them the right after the Nuremberg Laws. I considered them plain fascists and I considered them from the very start as despicable creatures who deal with the fascists and take profit out of it in order to be exempted from discrimination conducted against the others. …

So I didn’t trust the Nazis any more or any less than the Jewish Zionist councils. Indeed, I realised that the Zionists and the Nazis are approximately identical enemies of mine who have got both one thing in common, to get me out from home with 25 kilos to an unknown place and to leave my mother completely defenceless at home. …

The young people, the core of resistance, is always 16 to 30. Every soldier knows that they are the best material for fighting. … I was flabbergasted by the fact that the Zionists who pretended to be the protectors of the Jews, the first thing which they agreed to was to let go away a potential core of resistance who could in the last resort protect the families with force if necessary. …”

Dr. Rudolph Vrba, ‘Oral history interview with Rudolf Vrba’ ,
World at War TV Series, 1972, 1st section, extracts from 32 to 45mins.
Rudolf Vrba was a survivor of  Majdanek and Auschwitz. He escaped from Auschwitz in 1944 in order to warn the Jews of Hungary about the Nazi extermination programme.
Tragically, some Zionist leaders had other ideas.

13b

“I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. [Rudolf] Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary…

While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations … I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers. … Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…”

Dr. Rudolf Vrba, Daily Herald, February 1961
(cited in Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 1962, p. 231).

13c

“Why did Doctor Kastner betray his people when he could have saved many of them by warning them, by giving them a chance to fight, a chance to stage the second ‘Warsaw [uprising]’ which Eichmann feared? …

Could it be, therefore that the defeatist mood of Doctor Kastner was reinforced by the memory of words used by Doctor Chaim Weizmann, first President of Israel, when he addressed a Zionist convention in London in 1937? He said:

 I told the British Royal Commission that the hopes of Europe’s six million Jews were centred on emigration. I was asked: ‘Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?’ I replied: ‘No.’ The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world … only a branch will survive … They had to accept it. … If they feel and suffer, they will find the way – Beacharit Hayamim [‘When the Messiah comes, all the dead will be revived’] – in the fullness of time … I pray that we may preserve our national unity, for it is all we have.

‘Only a branch will survive …’. Did Kastner, like Hitler, believe in a master race, a Jewish nation created of Top People for Top People by Top People? Was that the way in which he interpreted Doctor Chaim Weizmann’s somber oration and was he right in so doing? If so, who was going to select the branch? Who was going to say which grains would form the heap of moral and economic dust, destined to await the coming of the Messiah? …

[My family,] presumably, formed the dust which was to be swept into the ovens by the Nazis who used Jewish leaders as their brooms …”

Dr. Rudolf Vrba, I Escaped from Auschwitz, 2002, pp. 281-2.

[Rudolf Vrba’s views were always controversial, but even Zionist newspapers such as the Jewish News, (15/12/16) and the Jerusalem Post, (16/2/17) have, in recent years, published strong criticisms of Kastner’s role in the Holocaust. For more on this whole controversy, see: Tony Greenstein, Weekly Worker, (1/6/17) and Ruth Linn, ‘Rudolf Vrba and the Auschwitz Reports: Conflicting Historical Interpretations’ (2011) .]

 

Comments (3)

  • Linda says:

    Thank you all for speaking out.

    Once I couldn’t imagine how the Holocaust came to be. I now can.

    I used to feel fairly confident in the power of protests and resistance by ordinary people.

    There’s mass resistance to this new genocide, it’s worldwide and all sorts of protest have been tried (legal, political, civil disobedience, suicide …). So what’s wrong with our societies that after 9 months of horrendous killing we still haven’t yet been able to stop it and we may never be able to punish all the guilty parties?

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  • As you say, comparisons between the Nazis and the Zionist movement are ‘antisemitic’ according to the IHRA.

    In the voluminous criticism of the IHRA to date there has been very little criticism of the 10th illustration of ‘antisemitism’ i.e. ‘Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.’

    As events today play out, in all their horror, in Gaza can anyone now doubt the correctness of those of us who insisted that Israeli policy has been shaped and justified by what happened in Germany and that it is essential to call out such similarities?

    When Yoav Gallant initiated Israel’s genocidal war he called the Palestinians ‘human animals’. The exact phrase Himmler used to describe the Jews in his lecture to senior SS officers in Posnan on 4 October 1943.

    Can there be any doubt about the exterminationist mentality that is now prevalent in Israel such as the popular car bumper sticker ‘finish them off’?

    When we hear of bulldozers gathering up Palestinian corpses for mass burial in Gaza and the leaving of Palestinian babies in hospitals to be eaten by wild animals we can see that the attitude of the Zionists and the majority of Israelis to Palestinians is not one jot different to that of the Nazis to Jews and Roma.

    Of course all this is ignored by the mainstream press for whom Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.

    thanks for this piece. I had not come across Marek Edelman’s quote before nor Vrba’s oral testimony, all 5 hours of it!

    The article above cites a review I wrote 7 years ago for Weekly Worker on Paul Bogdanor’s book Kasztner’s Crime, which accepts that Kasztner was a collaborator and Gestapo agent but pretends that this was nothing to do with Zionism.

    Since then I have also brought out a book Zionism During the Holocaust which covers both Vrba and Alfred Wetzler’s escape from Auschwitz and the silencing of their Auschwitz Protocols report and the background to all of this. You can get it by emailing me at [email protected]

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  • Kat William says:

    Thank you for making this available.. my heart breaks for the treachery poor Jews were up against.. horrific betrayal.

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